jackcinephile:

alatismeni-theitsa:

anti lo anon opinions

1) What is so weird about the designs in LO is that isn’t Persephone supposed to be the main character? Yet she’s easily confused for a number of other characters like Daphne, Aphrodite, or random unnamed nymphs all the time. Leto and Hera also look like twins, minus the eyes. Ironically the only unique designs in the whole cast is Hades, Demeter, and Minthe, which isn’t great for a variety of reasons. You’d think at least the lead would be unique in her own story, but I guess not.

2) What I find very disturbing about the claims of “feminist” H/P is the idea that “it’s rewritten this way to give Persephone personal power”. Power? Is that to say Persephone was weak and powerless and needed her marriage to a king to have any? Because that is more telling that they find her worth only in a title she gets through her husband versus anything else. Even removing zeus from the equation, she’s still the daughter of one of the big six, one of the top goddesses herself, and descended from a long line of the earth goddesses. Hades is also a descendent of a long line of gods, but no one ever questions HIS power or authority, only hers. More so, why is the meter of her “personal” power only in a high ranking marriage? Athena isn’t married, is she not powerful? Neither is Hestia, Artemis, Hecate, Aphrodite, or various other goddesses. Are they not powerful because of their lack of a king husband? In contrast, is that also to say someone like Hera is weak without her marriage to Zeus? Because that’s also not exactly a feminist ideal, now is it? Several of the gods aren’t married either, and theres no one questioning them on their power status, only Persephone.

Writers, and by extension their readers/viewers, can’t claim to be progressive in their ideology when they reduce Persephone’s story of a daughter and mother desperately fighting to see each other again despite ancient patriarchal society not allowing it and her making the best of a terrible situation to make queenship how SHE sees it into how she’s nothing without her husband and how he’s the actual victim to a mean mom who has the good sense to be wary of ancient kings and their ways, especially in marriage when women couldn’t fight back. At this point acknowledging the silenced voices of countless Greek and non-Greek women who were forced into loveless marriages that was shown via Persephone’s forced marriage in the original myth is more feminist than anything else at this point.

3) TBH I am hoping LO doesn’t end with them having children. It’s already regressive enough in having Persephone’s happiness only be in her eventual marriage to Hades, so I hope it doesn’t also tell its young audience that a woman’s happiness is in providing your husband children, even if you’re barely out of your teens and you don’t want them. I would hope it can finally have ONE choice that’s isn’t an outdated, patriarchal view of women/relationships, but i’m not holding my breath on it.

4) H/P children in LO is where it makes even less sense. It’s confirmed he is infertile so it’s bad if Persephone’s “super fertility” overrides that for his wants, especially when we have seen she is uncomfortable with sex and has nightmares about pregnancy / motherhood, as well as how childish / immature she is / remains. Throwing children into it is not what she wants/needs, and it only puts focus on Hades’ wants instead of her own, which doesn’t fit with the “giving her agency” claims.

Okay, apparently the entire anti LO community needs to have this spelled out to them. If Persephone is living the life that makes her happy, SHE’S EMPOWERED!! There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING that suggests she wouldn’t be happy with having a family with the man she loves! The only time her thoughts on having a baby was ever expressed in the story was when the story was referring to her having Apollo’s kid. Maybe I’m crazy for thinking this, but I’m pretty sure women that want kids still wouldn’t want to be raped and get pregnant. Her not wanting to have Apollo’s baby says fucking nothing about her desire to have children with someone she loves. And there have actually been implications throughout the story that she’d like to live a domestic lifestyle with Hades! If that’s what she wants, more fucking power to her! It’s not like Lore Olympus is saying that’s the only lifestyle women can live. The most likable woman in the whole comic is a single businesswoman for fuck’s sake! Persephone being a domestic wife wouldn’t make her any less empowered as long as that’s the lifestyle she wants! And no, fans aren’t saying Persephone isn’t empowered because she doesn’t have a husband, they’re saying she isn’t empowered because she’s not happy. Persephone’s empowerment comes from her seeking out the life that would make her happy! How do you people not fucking understand this?

🐎You see this? This is your high-horse. What you all need is to GET THE FUCK OFF OF IT!!!