now lets all snap back to reality here and look at FACTS.
let’s look at what real feminism has done in the real world.
Now, theres no question that feminists did some great things for womens rights. but they’ve also done a whole lot of bad for both genders as well, especially in recent years.
Now i know what you’re gonna say, NOT ALL FEMINISTS.
Feminism is a political movement. It has leaders. The rest of the people who join it, like the bloggers on tumblr, inherently support them by supporting feminism. Its not a big enough party to have multiple sects. Political parties motives are determined not by the supporters, but by the people who lead them, the people who do fundraisers, and organize protests, and slutwalks. The people who create the propaganda. The ones who write the literature, and who teach the women’s studies courses and plan their curriculums. Those people are far more influential than a sixteen year old with a blog and a few hundred followers.
The thing is, even your definition of feminism is wrong. The name itself should tell you that this is a gendered movement. Im assuming you’re going by the Websters definition.
Now im gonna do a breakdown on why even by its very definition feminism isnt for equality.
That link will take you to the ACTUAL definition of Feminism. now Websters did in fact say sexes but its secondary definition said
“organized activity on behalf of women’s rights and interests“ which even by Websters is still in favor of women. The oxford english dictionary also says that feminism is indeed about women.
You are probably asking yourself why this is even a problem. Aren’t women the ones who still need rights? Well see that may have been true twenty years ago but now it really isn’t. The main problem with the definition of feminism is that it enforces this idea that men live in some ideal world that women should want to live in. Idealizes our situation has the negative effect of erasing our problems. So even by its very definition feminism is already fucking up the idea of equal treatment and consideration.
Men want protection against false rape allegations. They feel that a man’s life should not be ruined simply on the allegation of a woman who may be a vindictive liar. Currently, a woman can accuse a man of rape for no reason, and the man’s name is splashed in the paper and his life is ruined. So, they fought for laws granting men anonymity until charged with the crime of rape—not convicted, just charged.
Feminists fought against this, causing it to fail. Also see here, the London Feminist Network campaigning to defeat the proposal.
Men want an end to the justice system favoring women simply because they are women, and giving men harsher sentences simply because they are men.
Men want equal treatment when victims of domestic violence, and to not be arrested for the crime of “being male” under primary aggressor policies.
Feminists fought against this by trying to suppress evidence showing that half of domestic violence is done by women, by threatening the researchers with bomb threats, death threats, etc. Modern, younger feminists are doing it as well.
Men want female rapists to be arrested, charged, and convicted with rape. In Western countries, women are rarely punished when raping men, due to the biased legal system. In some countries, women cannot be punished when raping men, since rape is defined as a male-perpetrated crime.
Feminists fought against this in India, arguing that “there is a physicality [in] rape” and that it would make things “more complicated for judges.”
Feminists fought against this in Israel, claiming that changing the law would result in men filing false rape claims.
Men don’t want to be thrown in jail because they lost their jobs and temporarily cannot pay child support.
Feminists fought against this, trying to lower the amount to $5000 before a man is guilty of a felony for not paying child support. If a man loses a decent-paying job, he will now be a felon, go to jail, lose his right to vote, AND be unable to find future jobs—if he cannot regain an equal-paying job within a few months.
Men want equal economic support and help from the government. When the recession hit, male-dominated fields like construction lost millions of jobs, while female-fields like education and healthcare gained jobs. So the government proposed an economic stimulus for those fields.
In 2008, a law was passed in England and Wales that allowed long-term domestic violence victims who killed their abuser to be charged with the lesser charge of manslaughter, but this only applies to women.
In California and Montana, a woman can name any man she likes as the father, he gets a letter in the mail, if he does not prove he isn’t the father within 30 days he is now the father and must pay. He cannot contest it. And DNA tests to prove paternity are not considered proof by the courts.
Women who falsely accuse a man of rape, who would be sent to prison for 10+ years if convicted, only gets fined or a slap on the wrist.
There is also the gender bias in the Probation Departments:
A higher score on the Probation Assessment Tool (PAT) means a recommendation that could lead to eventual dismissal of charges. A lower score means probation or lockup, not to mention the juvenile delinquent tag. [Judge] Hunt claims PAT routinely rewards girls with 14 extra points for gender alone, while boys get 0.
Then there are studies that show women who fail to pay child support are incarcerated only 1/8th as often as men with similar violations.
now lets all snap back to reality here and look at FACTS.
let’s look at what real feminism has done in the real world.
Now, theres no question that feminists did some great things for womens rights. but they’ve also done a whole lot of bad for both genders as well, especially in recent years.
Now i know what you’re gonna say, NOT ALL FEMINISTS.
Feminism is a political movement. It has leaders. The rest of the people who join it, like the bloggers on tumblr, inherently support them by supporting feminism. Its not a big enough party to have multiple sects. Political parties motives are determined not by the supporters, but by the people who lead them, the people who do fundraisers, and organize protests, and slutwalks. The people who create the propaganda. The ones who write the literature, and who teach the women’s studies courses and plan their curriculums. Those people are far more influential than a sixteen year old with a blog and a few hundred followers.
The thing is, even your definition of feminism is wrong. The name itself should tell you that this is a gendered movement. Im assuming you’re going by the Websters definition.
Now im gonna do a breakdown on why even by its very definition feminism isnt for equality.
That link will take you to the ACTUAL definition of Feminism. now Websters did in fact say sexes but its secondary definition said
“organized activity on behalf of women’s rights and interests“ which even by Websters is still in favor of women. The oxford english dictionary also says that feminism is indeed about women.
You are probably asking yourself why this is even a problem. Aren’t women the ones who still need rights? Well see that may have been true twenty years ago but now it really isn’t. The main problem with the definition of feminism is that it enforces this idea that men live in some ideal world that women should want to live in. Idealizes our situation has the negative effect of erasing our problems. So even by its very definition feminism is already fucking up the idea of equal treatment and consideration.
Men want protection against false rape allegations. They feel that a man’s life should not be ruined simply on the allegation of a woman who may be a vindictive liar. Currently, a woman can accuse a man of rape for no reason, and the man’s name is splashed in the paper and his life is ruined. So, they fought for laws granting men anonymity until charged with the crime of rape—not convicted, just charged.
Feminists fought against this, causing it to fail. Also see here, the London Feminist Network campaigning to defeat the proposal.
Men want an end to the justice system favoring women simply because they are women, and giving men harsher sentences simply because they are men.
Men want equal treatment when victims of domestic violence, and to not be arrested for the crime of “being male” under primary aggressor policies.
Feminists fought against this by trying to suppress evidence showing that half of domestic violence is done by women, by threatening the researchers with bomb threats, death threats, etc. Modern, younger feminists are doing it as well.
Men want female rapists to be arrested, charged, and convicted with rape. In Western countries, women are rarely punished when raping men, due to the biased legal system. In some countries, women cannot be punished when raping men, since rape is defined as a male-perpetrated crime.
Feminists fought against this in India, arguing that “there is a physicality [in] rape” and that it would make things “more complicated for judges.”
Feminists fought against this in Israel, claiming that changing the law would result in men filing false rape claims.
Men don’t want to be thrown in jail because they lost their jobs and temporarily cannot pay child support.
Feminists fought against this, trying to lower the amount to $5000 before a man is guilty of a felony for not paying child support. If a man loses a decent-paying job, he will now be a felon, go to jail, lose his right to vote, AND be unable to find future jobs—if he cannot regain an equal-paying job within a few months.
Men want equal economic support and help from the government. When the recession hit, male-dominated fields like construction lost millions of jobs, while female-fields like education and healthcare gained jobs. So the government proposed an economic stimulus for those fields.
In 2008, a law was passed in England and Wales that allowed long-term domestic violence victims who killed their abuser to be charged with the lesser charge of manslaughter, but this only applies to women.
In California and Montana, a woman can name any man she likes as the father, he gets a letter in the mail, if he does not prove he isn’t the father within 30 days he is now the father and must pay. He cannot contest it. And DNA tests to prove paternity are not considered proof by the courts.
Women who falsely accuse a man of rape, who would be sent to prison for 10+ years if convicted, only gets fined or a slap on the wrist.
There is also the gender bias in the Probation Departments:
A higher score on the Probation Assessment Tool (PAT) means a recommendation that could lead to eventual dismissal of charges. A lower score means probation or lockup, not to mention the juvenile delinquent tag. [Judge] Hunt claims PAT routinely rewards girls with 14 extra points for gender alone, while boys get 0.
Then there are studies that show women who fail to pay child support are incarcerated only 1/8th as often as men with similar violations.
nowhere in the world do women imprison men into labor camps where they are forced to work tirelessly until they’re corralled into a tiny room and gassed to death
nowhere in the world do women imprison men into labor camps where they are forced to work tirelessly until they’re corralled into a tiny room and gassed to death
…(sorry, had to continue!) so much, that they feel the need to erase it, and berate any who would dare consider marriage and being a housewife and mother. To them, you’re “wasting” your life and talents raising and nurturing the next freaking generation to act like decent human beings. If you’re not out trying to take men’s jobs (or lives) or being the CEO of a big business, you’re doing something wrong or you’ve been brainwashed. This is rich coming from a movement that came from communism.
I kind of see what you’re saying. I think one of the issues with feminism is that it belittles femininity and acts like strength can only come from doing masculine things. Doesn’t that go against the idea of female empowerment though? I mean, why can’t we value femininity and motherhood and attributes that are unique to females as equally as we do male and masculine attributes? Isn’t womanhood equally as important and powerful? I think so.
My post was answered! 😀 For those who also are anti-feminist, go to this person’s blog; she’s brilliant!
…(sorry, had to continue!) so much, that they feel the need to erase it, and berate any who would dare consider marriage and being a housewife and mother. To them, you’re “wasting” your life and talents raising and nurturing the next freaking generation to act like decent human beings. If you’re not out trying to take men’s jobs (or lives) or being the CEO of a big business, you’re doing something wrong or you’ve been brainwashed. This is rich coming from a movement that came from communism.
I kind of see what you’re saying. I think one of the issues with feminism is that it belittles femininity and acts like strength can only come from doing masculine things. Doesn’t that go against the idea of female empowerment though? I mean, why can’t we value femininity and motherhood and attributes that are unique to females as equally as we do male and masculine attributes? Isn’t womanhood equally as important and powerful? I think so.
My post was answered! 😀 For those who also are anti-feminist, go to this person’s blog; she’s brilliant!
If you think that women had absolutely no rights in the 40’s, 50’s, or 60’s, you are delusional as fuck.
Women were exactly equal to men in those three decades. The economic times were completely different, and made it so that men could work outside, and women could work in the home and…
If you think that women had absolutely no rights in the 40’s, 50’s, or 60’s, you are delusional as fuck.
Women were exactly equal to men in those three decades. The economic times were completely different, and made it so that men could work outside, and women could work in the home and…
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